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Washington Post OnFaith: Can Women Get God on Their Side?

July 21st, 2009

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Former President Jimmy Carter, writing this month on behalf of a dozen world leaders including Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu, condemned “the male interpretations of religious texts” that have “provided a reason or excuse for the deprivation of women’s equal rights . . . This is in clear violation not just of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but also the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Moses and the prophets, Muhammad, and founders of other great religions.”Carter and his fellow Elders issued this statement: “The justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a Higher Authority, is unacceptable.”
What’s your reaction to these statements? Are ‘male interpretations of religious texts’ to blame for the ‘deprivation of women’s equal rights?’

There’s not much debate about the continuing oppression of women in many, if not most, traditional societies and their modern offshoots. The important question, as the Buddha noted long ago, isn’t why the house is on fire but how to get out of it as quickly as possible. In the West, where women have escaped the worst restrictions of sexism and enjoy something approximating equal rights, the key issue historically was the Catch-22 of chivalry. As heirs of the medieval Christian ethos coupled with romantic ideals, women were expected to depend upon the loving kindness of knight errants, men who retained all the power, did all the fighting, and bestowed the rewards as largesse on women. The catch was that any woman who claimed her own power violated the romantic-Christian ideal and had to pay the price. (Hence the slow transformation of women executives from power-hungry bitches to men’s respected equals. A transformation by no means complete in the workplace.)

Outside the Western tradition there’s a complex mixture of tribal forces that keep women from assuming power and equality. God hasn’t been much help in this regard. Whatever the founders of world religion intended, the authority of priests has colluded in keeping women weak. I’m not sympathetic to the notion that religions embody equal rights at their core, and that present-day oppression is simply a deviation from that pure path. Every scripture is more favorable to males than females, at least all the ones I’ve encountered. When women are worshipped or venerated, their status has been idealized. The feminine principle may be beautiful, but your own wife and daughter can stay at home, barefoot, ignorant, and ready to bear children at your whim. That’s the social reality imposed in tribal societies, and modernism has been slow to overturn its gross inequalities.

So back to the salient question: what can women do to change the situation? A touching story emerged recently about girls in Afghanistan and their eagerness to be educated. That’s always the first step, along with basic consciousness raising. Basic means convincing women that they are worthy. The blood ran cold at those mass rallies organized under the Saddam regime in Iraq when screeching, irate women called for the punishment of Kuwaiti “whores” by a good Muslim man like Saddam. Interpretation: If a women strays from the tribal fold, her sisters, so called, are the first to drag her back into oppression.

Education and self-worth can do a lot, but eventually women confront a power barrier. No one cedes power willingly, all the more when the rise of the weaker sex is interpreted by men as the castration of the stronger sex. On the power front, situations get reduced to particulars, and every case must work itself out according to which men face which women. It helped Hillary Clinton in 1992 that a forceful women’s movement was on her side, but she still had to go through the fire alone when it came to her remark about not staying home and baking cookies. The majority of American women call themselves feminists, or at least feminist sympathizers who want more equality, yet it was women as a voting bloc who gave Bush the White House a second time — in an ironic throwback, he became their knight errant protecting them from the dragon of Islamic jihad.

There are no magic formulas here. Education, consciousness raising, and individual claims to power are tried and true steps if women want to attain equality. Will God ever be on their side? In reality, yes, of course. An omnipresent God doesn’t discriminate. We are all in God and of god. But insofar as religion was organized by males, interpreted by males, presided over by males, etc., I find myself believing in the power of consciousness much more than the benevolence of the pulpit.

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19 COMMENTS
  • Daniele says:

    I briefly had a relationship with a woman who was absolutely
    delightful; natural, uninhibited, a real “buddy” of mine, yet
    feminine and super sexy. This demonstrated to me the potential
    for what women can be and how relationships could be
    without the “krap” women have been indocrinated with for
    centuries.

    Can we change our mind and swap out BHO for Hillery. I don’t
    think he has much effective time left. She has bigger balls than
    he does. Tee Hee

  • Sarah says:

    Thanks, Deepak!

    Keep up the work you’re doing on the planet, despite a few bitter, hateful and biased responses. I met you very, very briefly a long time ago at Kutztown University, Pa. and saw only Love in your eyes, which I still remember clearly to this day!

  • Pati says:

    Thank you Deepak!

  • Josh says:

    Sarah — I agree with you, Deepak is a very nice man. It’s just that he
    is so far off on his politics, you have to wonder about everything he
    says. And don’t forget, the Devil was a beautuful angel.

    Hackman — I wish you weren’t so bitter man.

  • Jared says:

    The devil was a beautiful angel? that has nothing to do with what deepak was saying at all.
    Its funny how no matter what you say to religous people they always try to find a way to

    defend thier ignorance. Even if what there saying doesnt make sense.

    Ps. the devil DOES NOT exist. get over it

  • Josh says:

    Jared — Thank you for sharing your “belief”. You don’t know anything.

    Did Hackman get censored? Is that the new game? Deepak in America.

  • hackerman says:

    yes Josh, they’ve been censoring me for months! They just reveal the
    weakness and conflict in their views…. indefensible!

    You think Deepak is a nice person…. Doesn’t it depend on who you
    are? He’s certainly not nice to us Bible Thumpers, or unborn children
    might think he’s a little unfriendly..

  • Josh says:

    Hackerman — If the truth be known “nice” is something I’ve never trusted.
    Nice is an act. There’s really no such thing as nice. Sometimes nice
    scares me.

  • jared says:

    I dont know anything? wow. i ve never heard that before but that not my “belife” its what i

    know. Religous people are ignorant. Its not there fualt but its true. You probly didnt know

    that the word santan means adversary (hence santan is gods arch enemy) and when it

    was first use in the hebrew bible to describe king david by a philitine king to mark david

    as an enemy on the battlefeild. Not as the diabolical counterpart of God. the word didnt

    even originate until 538 b.c. by the jews who had sufferd conquest and exile, oppresion,

    and dispowerment. they simply could not belive that there God had anything to do with

    the oppresion they had endured so a few daring innovators set out to begin a

    theological revolution. One saying that santan wasnt just a powerful enemy but the

    master conspirator and maker of war on god himself. The word devil wasnt a synonym

    for satan until several decades afterward. The devil you belive in didnt even exist until

    538 bc does that even make sense? Only ignorant people could belive in a book that tell

    says that one man and his family could build a boat 300 cubits in length 50 in width and

    30 high (450 ft x 75ft x 45ft smaller than the titanic). and not only gathered but fit 2 of

    every Insect, reptile, mammal, and bird. (100’s of millions of animals) form every part of

    the world (you would have to travel the entire earth to gather every kind of animal

    because some animals exist in one part of the world but not others) and fit them on one

    boat for more than a year. never did the bible mention gathering food for 100’s of

    millions of animals so they could eat for a year. Im done here its nothing but a buch of

    bull shit tall tales past down from generation to generation. you sir, dont know anything.

    lets see what kind of bull you come up with to defend that.

  • jared says:

    Sorry for all the typos. i was trying to type fast but you get the idea.

  • Josh says:

    Jared — You are brilliant. You have a head full of information.
    You are rational, super logical. And my dear sir — In all due
    respect — you do not know your ass from a hole in the ground.
    In the world of metaphysics, you could not pour piss out of a
    boot with directions on the heel. You just don’t “know” You’re
    guessing, figuriung, making stuff up, brilliant stuff.

  • Josh says:

    Jared — P.S. — There is a place we can get to where we know,
    but you’re not there right now. Actually, if you’ll look, I think you
    can know that.

  • Neety says:

    Thank You Deepak..
    Thank you..

  • jared says:

    what are you talking about? what i was saying are true facts. i didnt make anything up i dont have to. Ive learned what i know from paying attention to real life, reading, and reseaching. Try telling great book writers like ‘Jonathan Kirsch’ that they are just “making things up” .The only people that were making things up were the people who constructed the bible. Tell me this. If what you belive truly is the word of God. Then it is as stagnant and undeniable as possible. There should be no way that you can disprove ANY of it if its TRUE. Right?

    And if thats true (that the bible is the acual words of God) then if I were to take one single thing and make you realize that its none sense then the rest of “Gods word” Would crumble with it. Right?

    Right. but i and others before me. have taken the most ridiculous statments from the good books and compared them with facts that any person with a working brain can see are true and logical. Pages and pages of this writing that can bring you out of your stubborness, out of religions that require you to put your hard earn money (a material item created by man) into a basket and givin to God. lol . its laughable that someone would belive that someone thats supossed ALL powerful Knowing and seeing would need (for some reason) money. Does it even make sense for the thought of money to come to the mind of God? Think about that (if your brain has the capacity)

    You obviously have a magnifacent Zeal for what you belive in. I myself was a strong beliver in christiany at one point. But noticing simple things like: the fact that the bible seems to deny the existence of dinosaurs, the 8 other planets in the solar system, anything else in space (besides the sun moon and stars which the author claims are ‘in the sky’) And everything else that people werent aware of in those times. Brought me out of the ignorance that you and so many others are traped in. But the thing is. Even wen i show you obvious statments in the bible that contradict itself or facts of the real world. ex: God clearly says that you shall not worship any other god “for i am a jealous God” but turns around and says that you shouldnt be jealous and it is wrong. So God is a hypocrite? You still try to defend what you and so many others for the past 2000 years have been programmed to belive. It seems you will never break free, never be able to exspand your mind into the infinite universe.I find it sad that you are so far stuck i your belife that you acually belive that would make up things off the top of my head just to prove a point. You should stop being afraid and exspand your mind. I do appreciate the complement but honestly i would not consider myself brilliant. I am only 20 and i have only begun on my journey for knowledge.

  • Trinity says:

    Thank you Mr. Deepak Chopra for mentioning this!
    For along time now people start to awaken that religion is a belief system with various different followers, depending on the religion, which of course is ‘man-made’ …. And, I am stating ‘man-made’, not woman made….. I feel that if woman had been responsible to write down universal laws via metaphors, stories and using analogy of some of the avatar’s lives they would have come up with a life confirming script that would predict neither woman or men as standing above the other gender…. They would possibly have assigned certain tasks and shore to gender related issues, for that every individual and every gender possesses certain abilities that the other one doesn’t have, like for ex. having babies, or going out into the forest and to hunt for food, etc…… Yet it would have been made clear, that woman and men are existing next to each other as equals!

    Please feel free to also follow me on Twitter! http://twitter.com/3nitySolution

    Thank you very much for your contribution by discussing this issue.

    Sincerely,
    3nitySolution

  • Josh says:

    Jared — I did not say you were wrong, I said you do not know.
    There is a level of knowing beyond reasonableness that you are
    not communicating from. You are not there. You are in your head.
    True knowing is a function of higher consciousness, not mind.

    “Seek and ye shall find.”

  • jared says:

    I understand what you mean.

  • Jared says:

    Deepak is a nice person. He hasnt been mean to anybody. Just because he disagrees with your views doesnt mean that hes being ugly. your just sensitive. All he’s doing is informing the world what he belives to be the truth. Same as you. If he were to say Bible thumpers are foolish, ignorant, gullible, dumasses who would belive if the pastor told them the devil was a monster under their beds. That would be mean.

  • Kathy says:

    “a good Muslim man like Saddam” I used to respect Deepak.

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