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Jesus: A Story Of Enlightenment

November 3rd, 2008

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There are no facts to tell us what happened to the young Jesus during his “lost years” between the Nativity story and the day he appears at the River Jordan, age thirty, to be baptized. I was glad for this mystery, because it allowed me to describe an extraordinary youth who discovers, step by step, that he is the awaited Messiah. This isn’t a fictional biography but a journey into the realm of miracles and, in the end, complete enlightenment.

It’s been a long time — perhaps as far back as Thomas Jefferson — that Americans seriously considered Jesus, not as the Son of God, but as an enlightened teacher. For me, that doesn’t rob him of his sacred stature. It puts sacredness in human terms.

I hope the reader comes away appreciating how enlightenment unfolds from promising beginnings, not full divinity. In an age when Jesus threatens to become the exclusive property of fervent, literal-minded devotees, we have an urgent need to bring him back, not as the savior, but as a savior — one who won his own salvation before promising it to the world.

Love,

Deepak

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  • Harold says:

    I was listening to aUnity FM and noticed how close the teachings are to what I was seeing in my life. Philippins 4:8 “if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” I guess I’m preaching to the choir, there, so let me say that a serious way to not be judgmental or negative and make every statement an affirmation and every statement ‘good’ as God beheld that everything was ‘very good’, and Jesus ‘…came, not to judge’ and he is the only judge. Dropping negative judgmental words is a radical way to follow the command, notto judge, and see His world as he made it. A ‘perfedt’ way.

    That may be an assertion, but just try it. 1JN 4:1 ‘Beloved, believe not every spirit [inspiration], but try [prove] the spirits{inspired utterances} whether they are of God:’ That’s the scientific method of inquiry, the basis of all science. Jesus spoke Aramainc, a scientific language, also with 17 words for love, We can’t think straight unless we understand language. God promised to give us ‘a pure language.’

    Another thing to note about language is that words only have meaning in a context. Everything is related, by analogy, to everything else and tells us something about it. That is important because words usually have a negative and a positive definition and average about seven definitions per word. Actually, every word is modified by every other word, so actually a word has as many nuances as there are combinations of words. That gives one the spiritual interpretation, instead of the literal only. The litersal is pretty much only accurate for a certain situation, the one in the Bible. The spirit guides us to the meaning in the context of the particular event in our life. We need the spirit to give us the truth and the truth sets us free from any one elses interpretation. Maybe you can see how the words, ‘not open to private interpretation’ can mean no organization or group of people, as they can’t make all our decisions for us. We all use words slightly differently. Differently enough to argue, while we all see different facets or are different facets. By seeing everyone elses perspective, also, we can find great joy and no conflict that can’t be resolved, to us, anyway.When we resolve the conflicts in us then we are very free to resolve the conflicts between us and no one has to be better or entirely in the right, in a way, as truth is all infinite.

    Oh, well, that opens up a whole new dixcusion. I just wanted to inject a possible way to start using the idea that everything has many angles and sides. I have found no one who could understand this all, but I feel Unity people have it already except maybe for this technique to clean up our language for clearer thinking. A lot of discretion is needed in the application and you may have to back off a bit and make up rules as you go along, but these language tools should put your on a whole new level or at least improve everything. Anyway it sure changed my life, so here I am., enjoying all you’re saying. It’s so much what I see also.

    When I first listened I didn’t see the unity, but it became clear over time. I think adjusting to my use of words may seem foreign to you also, at first, but I think we are really speaking th e same language with only personal differences, as we are not supposed to lose our individuality and individual relationship with God. Unity is with Him. Without us too, in language usage, it would be unity with what? There has to be something for us. to unite with. We need the us and the Him, and he made the you, also. I think of it like two train tracks. Forever united, hopefully for the train. Not to close or too far apart. Just right. Perfect.

    That is a rule that probably applies, even in the spiritual realm, although that one has no begining or end. We don’t have to have an end either. Oh my, another subject. Maybe our end here would be the ability to go back and forth in dimensions and not really end exactly. Just end to the old way of thinking.

  • Ramiro says:

    Thanks Deepak for opening up the venue to discuss enlightenment (awareness). To be totally present without past and future is needed to understand the “kingdom of God.” I thank you for allowing this book’s manifestation into our experience.

    warm intents,

    Ramiro

  • Lily S. says:

    I can’t seem to find the Book Tour Schedule, I wanted to cross-check the dates as not to miss him when he visits Los Angeles.
    Hugs, Lily S.

  • Tony says:

    I have no idea about the bible, Jesus or anything. I don’t like church because there is something about it that doesn’t seem real
    or sincere to me about it. I don’t like the people and I think that a lot of what they say/teach is very far fetched and
    I lean more towards Philosophy and thing slike that instead of Christianity. How do I find the truth? how do I learn more if I don’t go to church? how should i go about figuring things out?

  • leila says:

    WHEN YOU BECOME LOVE ITSELF, YOU BECOME BEAUTY…. THEN, ANSWERS COME.

  • Bella says:

    Deepak…what are your views on Satan? The bible clearly identifies him as our adversary, pacing the earth like a roaring lion, trying to decieve everyone. Logic states that… if you believe the bible,… that Jesus is real and fully GOD,.. then of course…Satan is real and fully EVIL… His goal is to lead us astray with false information that REALLY seems like the truth,… but in the end manipulates and separates us from the truth of God and his purpose for mankind. A counterfeit MUST look like the real thing or we wouldn’t buy it….I believe his (Satans) brilliance lies in his ability to disquise himself as an angel of light. Are we all decieved into thinking he doesn’t exist? Diminishing this powerful entity into nothing but negative thoughts and emotions?… Like I said, brilliant. If we believe that we, mere flesh and blood, can “outwit” him….we are not “enlightened”…we are delusional….unless of course we believe the bible…that Satan and his demons tremble at the “Word”…who is Christ…who is God…our only hope.

  • Riaz says:

    Be afraid to tell christ…Tell you want to become a christ… Never say you are pure.. The moment if you tell you are pure GOD will make sure that you are impure

  • Nathan says:

    Jesus said in John 14:6 “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” In other words, Jesus himself said that he was THE savior, not A savior. That being said, Jesus isn’t the “property” of anyone. In John 3:16 Jesus said, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son [Jesus], that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

  • Annie says:

    This is for Tony who asked about how to find out the truth. God says in the Bible that if you seek Him, He will be found by you. If you really want to get to know Him, my recommendation is to attend Bible-based churches and ask about their studies. It made a big difference to me, now I know who God really is, as opposed to the God so-called Christians preached to me about from a regulated pulpit. Now I’m free to have a relationship with God for who He really is, but I needed, and still need, help to understand His word as spoken through the pages of the Bible. I will pray for your quest, as us mere humans sometimes get in the way of a sincere seeker and frustrate you. Don’t give up, and remember that no matter how everything seems, God loves you.

    Annie

  • p says:

    Let us not forget that if we are to believe what he says and to rely on him as a source, we must also believe what he said about himself. He clearly indicated through pointing out the prophecies he fulfilled who he was. He even told us He is the Messiah. “I am the light and the truth and the Way and no man passes to the Father except through me”. Hallelujah Thank you Jesus I pray all these reading this shall be saved in Jesus name. Amen.

  • Lacy says:

    You take Christ’s deity, the Son of God, away and then attempt to re-explain him as an “enlightened teacher”?? How is it that an merely “enlightened teacher” had the ability to walk on water, heal the lame, raise corpses from the dead and be remembered by the whole world until even this day? No, kind sir, there is more to Christ than enlightenment. I suggest you seek him out, ask for forgiveness and revelation. Christ says those who come to know him have “God-blessed eyes and God-blessed ears”…It is my prayer that God blesses your eyes and ears.

  • Mike says:

    Thanks, Deepak, for doing what mainstream Christianity has not done – give people options and permission to discover a Jesus they can believe in, rather than just one tired, old presentation with an ultimatum of acceptance or damnation. You and your presentation of a new Christ of Faith are a pneuma of fresh air.

  • Aymara says:

    En el mundo hay muchos maestros. Cada uno de nosotros puede ser un maestro de alguien cuando menos lo espera, aun si lo hace con la intención de serlo o no.
    En mi camino de vida he conocido varios maestros de los que arrastran masas, con enseñanzas bien orientadas hacia ser mejores personas y cultivar el espíritu. Sin embargo, (obvio que cada quien tiene su destino o manera de ver las cosas…) Pienso, creo y siento que Jesús, es el Maestro de maestros o Rey de reyes, esto no lo digo como vana repetición, sino porque el AMOR que en Cristo Jesús yo he encontrado, no lo he encontrado en nadie más, es un Amor que todo lo renueva y lo sana, es un Amor, que el día que se siente dentro de uno mismo, es solo cuando se puede decir lo que he dicho en estas líneas.
    No he leído el libro, solo la nota que antecede a los comentarios. Espero que usted llegue a sentir ese AMOR, entonces entenderá mis palabras.

    Con Amor,

    Aymara

  • Far says:

    Dear Deepak, you are a nice man but you are not authorized to speak or write about Jesus Christ – not in this world nor in this lifetime. Universal Law of Authority. Very soon the way of Truth shall reveal your motivations to all. Yet even so, I’m still a fan and send much grace your way. Although I see your error calmly and clearly, there is still hope for your enlightenment…….brgds, Far

  • Jeff says:

    To say that Jesus was simply an “enlightened teacher” is to ignore that this teacher
    claimed to be “divine”. A “mere” human who claims to be divine is not very
    enlightened…unless he actually is divine…which of course makes him more
    than just an “enlightened teacher”. The conundrum shows the circular fallacy of
    limiting Jesus. Either he was divine or he was deluded. The middle ground of
    an “enlightened teacher” does not hold up, given his own teachings.

    Imagining his “lost years” is an interesting concept but does not justify the
    conclusion apparently reached in this book. Basing an argument or conclusion about so
    pivotal a figure as Jesus upon imagination, speculation and supposition seems entertaining,
    perhaps, but hardly a valid means of evaluating who Jesus was. It is no more valid
    than if I were to image what Mr. Chopra’s early life was like, absent any real information,
    and then proceed to conclude who he is as an adult. Unfortunately, some
    people will read the book and draw conclusions about Jesus based upon ideas that are little
    more than fiction.

  • Joshua says:

    This article is not in any way meant to be an attack on those who don’t believe in historic accuracy of the New Testament record. It’s a free country and we all have a right to believe in whatever we chose. But listen, if the New Testament reflects accurate history, then we all a have a shot at something wonderful here. If the New Testament is telling the truth, then there is a God who loves us and wants to live with us and within us. Sin (rebellion against God) is keeping this from happening. But there is good news and it is this: Jesus Christ, the Son of God came and took the rap for us. He paid for every sin we’ve ever committed or will commit. Accepting Jesus as our Saviour guarantees that God will accept us now while we live and after we die and step into eternity. It’s a wonderful promise. Wonderful…only if it’s true.

    I do believe that the historic evidence for the trustworthiness of the New Testament is unparalleled. I make no apology for the fact that I have trusted the Jesus of the New Testament with my eternity. In subsequent articles I hope to share much of this data. For the moment, I would like to consider the critical position and some of the assumptions that are made in order to deny the trustworthiness of the New Testament. You see, the Christian too, must make the same assumptions. However, it is my contention that the Christian position applies these assumptions in a far more logically consistent way.

    Since the nineteenth century, higher critics have gained a following in their denial (not refutation) of the New Testament’s historic accuracy. Details vary, but the major belief here among critics is that the “Christian myth” believed today is not what was propagated by the early followers of Jesus. The myth, they say, and the Gospels from which it was derived, have ‘evolved’ over time, gradually obscuring some details, embellishing others, and, at times, injecting shear fantasy (For example, The resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead) into the narrative.

    This notion has gained much acceptance in our post-modern, relativistic culture, among whose goals seems to be the liberation from bonds imposed on us by the previous, largely Christian-influenced generation. Indeed, if the New Testament can be shown to be the product of mythologizing, then why should anyone feel bound by the moral code it dictates?

    This “liberating knife” however, is limited in its power to grant the absolute freedom so desperately sought. For in their attempt to severe ties with fundamentalist Christianity, the critic who ascribes to the “Christ myth” theory inevitably must shackle himself to a set of rules from which the only escape is intellectual suicide. To the point, in order to believe in the so-called evolution of Christianity and of the New Testament record, the critic must make the following assumptions:

    1) Absolute truth exists and is knowable.*

    2) Truth is exclusive.*

    3) Knowing, believing and acting on the truth is important.*

    4) There is a binding moral law; Lying is wrong.*

    5) Ancient documents may sometimes be regarded as trustworthy.*

    6) It is possible to reconstruct history objectively and truthfully.*

    7) History can be corrupted over time; facts may become embellished or obscured.*

    Expansion:

    1) Absolute Truth Exists and is Knowable

    Truth, by definition, is a correspondence between what is thought or stated to that which is. The post-modern position, however, is a relativistic one. It states that absolute truth does not exist. What’s true for one person, they say, is not necessarily true for the next. The idea is attractive today. It means that nobody is ever wrong. Nobody, that is, except those who believe in the existence of absolute truth!

    The relativist’s worldview, attractive as it may seem on the surface, is intrinsically impossible to live. It is clearly self-defeating. In essence, the relativist says, “The truth is, there is no truth.” He asserts that it is impossible to make a statement which accurately reflects reality, by making a statement we are to assume, which accurately reflects reality!

    The fact is, in order to make a meaningful statement about anything; we must forfeit the right to embrace strict relativism. This holds especially true for the New Testament critic who asserts the truthfulness of his view of early Christianity over the New Testament record. This brings us to the next assumption that the critic must make.

    2) Truth is Exclusive

    One of the most common complaints about Christianity is that it claims to be “the only way.” What is often overlooked is the fact that every other worldview out there is just as exclusive as Christianity. Buddhism was born out of rejection of Hinduism. Sikhism was born out of a rejection of both Hinduism and Buddhism. Bahiism was created to reconcile all these religions but in doing so, excluded the exclusivists. That’s the inescapable nature of each and every truth claim. Any statement which supposedly corresponds to reality automatically excludes the opposite from being true. This is called the law of non-contradiction. Any attempt to deny this law requires that it be used in the denial process. Another self-refuting position!

    The New Testament critic who embraces the “Christ-myth” theory of Christianity must also believe in this law, since he argues that his reconstruction of early Christianity, rather than that depicted in the New Testament, reflects accurate history. In creating his reconstruction of history, the critic immediately must forfeit his right to deny the claims of Christ on the grounds that they are exclusivist or “narrow”. As pointed out earlier, every truth claim is exclusive. In short, we may deny the claims of Jesus who said He was the only way to God and to heaven, but we cannot charge Him with making a statement which is not meaningful. Even the most hardened critic must agree that the claims of Christ as recorded in the New Testament, though unpalatable to some, are logically consistent.

    3) Knowing, Believing, and Acting on the Truth is Important

    The New Testament critic must hold this statement to be true, else the question may be raised, “Why bother with creating a historic reconstruction of early Christianity?” The next question that needs answering is, “Why is knowing the truth important?”

    Foremost is the safety factor. Believing something to be true that isn’t, or denying the truthfulness of something that is, can be downright dangerous. Refusing to believe that acid is poisonous, or that a speeding truck is about to run you over can get a person killed! Here’s something else: If Jesus is who He said He was, then denying the truthfulness of His claims would have the most disastrous results. For the Christian then, knowing, believing and acting on the truth is indeed important, and the Christian can give solid reasons for this assertion. Can the critic do likewise?

    If the critic believes that knowing the truth is important he simply must be expected to explain why. This will be impossible without some sort of standard by which “goodness” or “badness” may be measured. This brings us to our next point.

    4) There is a Binding Moral Law – Spreading Falsehood is Wrong

    Again, if this is not the case, why is it so imperative that the New Testament be proven false? More importantly, where did this moral law come from? We are left with only two options for its origin. It was either created by people or it wasn’t. If people created the moral law against lying then this law is beneath us. It would therefore be subject to us, not us to it. Why, then is it binding? Furthermore, if moral law comes merely from the minds of people, then which person am I to believe? Does society decide? If so, which society? Each and every one of us must cross a multitude of societal boundaries every day. What about the social

    reformers’ dilemma? If society sets the standards of morality, then what are we to do with social reformers who stood outside and condemned what society was doing until change was made. The abolishment of the African slave trade and the later civil rights movements come to mind. These were, most would agree, positive changes, yet how could they be if they came from immoral people? Remember, if society decides what is right and wrong then those who brought an end to the slave trade for example, were, by definition, acting immorally. They were going against what mainstream society had decided was right.

    The critic is stuck. If he is bound to tell the truth, he must explain why this is so. If he is not bound to the truth then why on earth should we listen to his version of Christian origins?

    5) Ancient Documents May Sometimes be Regarded as Trustworthy

    Any one attempting to reconstruct history has no choice but to regard this statement as true. If not, then with what exactly is the reconstruction being performed?

    Assuming that some historic documents can be trusted and others cannot, how on earth do we differentiate between the two? Ravi Zachariahs and Norman Geisler purpose a four-fold test by which the truthfulness of a statement may be gauged.

    A) The statement must be logically consistent

    B) There must be some empirical evidence to support it

    C) It must apply meaningfully to by life (Experiential relevance)

    D) It must pass the unaffirmability test (It must not be self-refuting. The statement, “I can’t speak a word of English.” Is an example of an unaffirmable statement. To deny it is to employ it.)

    E) It must pass the undeniability test. First principles such as existence are absolutely undeniable. To the person who would deny his own existence, the question might well be raised, “Who then is making this denial if it is not you?”

    Saunders has proposed a three-fold test by which the trustworthiness of historic writings specifically, may be may be estimated (See C. Saunders, “Introduction to Research in English Literary History”, 1953, p. 143):

    A) The Bibliographical Test – has the document been copied accurately? Is it reasonable to assume that the text has come to us unchanged or changed little since it’s original composition based on the manuscript evidence?

    B) Internal Evidence – Is the document consistent? Does it contain contradictions?

    C) External Evidence – Is what’s contained in the document confirmed by archaeological evidence? Do other writers support this document’s claims?

    [6) It is possible to reconstruct history objectively and truthfully.]

    We must also consider the fact that the New Testament writers claim to be eyewitnesses, or people who spoke to eyewitnesses to the events they record. These testimonies may subject to further tests for truthfulness. Simon Greenleaf (1783-1853) the famous Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University produced a famous work entitled, “A Treatise on the Law of Evidence.” This volume is still considered the greatest single authority on evidence in the entire literature of legal procedure.

    John Warwick Montgomery’s volume “The Law Above the Law” summarizes Greenleaf’s criteria for determining the credibility of witnesses. These are:

    1) Their honesty – Its reasonable for people to ordinarily speak the truth when there is no prevailing motive or inducement to the contrary. Can it be demonstrated that the writers of the New Testament had motive to lie? Can it be shown that the author’s of the New Testament were dishonest? What about the sources that the critic consults for his historic reconstruction? How do they measure up against this test?

    2) Their ability – It is always assumed that people are honest and of sound mind and are of average and ordinary intelligence. It must also be assumed that the witness that the witnesses powers of recollection are adequate in determining the truth. Whenever an objection is raised in opposition, the burden of proof is on the objector by the common and ordinary rules of evidence and by the law and practice of the courts. How does the New Testament fair? How about the sources, which deny the accuracy of the New Testament?

    3) Their number and consistency of their testimony – How many witnesses are saying the same thing? Do they contradict each other? Again, how do the four Gospels of the New Testament fair? How do they compare with the writings pf Paul and Peter? What about the sources to which the critic turns for “reliable” history? Do they pass this test more convincingly than the New Testament?

    4) The coincidence of their testimony with collateral and contemporaneous facts and circumstances – The witnesses should be compared with themselves, with each other, and with the surrounding facts and circumstances. Their testimony should be sifted as if it were given in a court of law on the side of the adverse party, the witness being subject to a rigorous cross-examination.

    The critic claims that his reconstruction of history, rather than the New Testament, reflects the facts. It is certainly reasonable for the Christian to expect the critic to demonstrate how his historic documents, rather than the New Testament, pass the above tests more convincingly. To my knowledge, no critic has ever been able to demonstrate this. Conversely, the manuscript evidence that argues for the reliability (in the sense that it passes the bibliographical test) of the New Testament is unparalleled.

    7) History Can Become Corrupted Over Time; Facts Can Become Embellished or Obscured

    The critic must assume this statement to be true since the focus of his argument is the ‘evolution’ of the ‘Christian myth’ over time. The critic argues that over time, the Jesus of history was lost and the Jesus of faith gradually replaced him in the Gospels of the New Testament. Of interest here is exactly how this corruption may have taken place. The factors said to have been involved in creating the ‘Christian myth’ may rightly be applied to the critics’ own historic reconstruction. Here are some points to consider:

    Central to the critics arguments is the notion that the Gospels as we know them today were composed long after the events they describe. The Gospels, they maintain, went through many revisions, beginning with a non-extant document known as “Q”, which is said to have been a collection Jesus’ sayings. This notion is maintained even though no reference to “Q” has ever been found in any document, nor has any manuscript evidence been found to show that “Q” has ever existed. Furthermore, the oldest manuscripts in existence today, dating to the mid-first century, reflect a New Testament record identical to what we have today. Ignoring this evidence, as some do in favor of their abstract theories, we must still accept the fact that the Gospels were composed mush closer in time to the events they describe than the critics’ own historic reconstruction. In short, if more time between the events and the written record of those events translates into a greater potential for corruption, then isn’t it reasonable to hold the critic’s reconstruction of history in greater question than the New Testament record?

    If we are to charge writers of the New Testament with fraud, (which what we have to do if we deny the truthfulness their reports) then we have to establish a motive. In court of law, establishing the motive of the accused is paramount. What can we say the Gospel writers’ motives were? Remember, the composition of the Gospels, even according to the critic, took place during a time of great persecution for Christians. Finding a motive, apart from a desire to record actual history, poses a problem. If we can just turn the tables for a moment, let us consider what today’s critic has to gain from his historic reconstruction.

    In denying the trustworthiness of the New Testament, the critic now finds himself liberated from Christian morality. He is free from the word of God to determine truth for himself. Immediately he is released to pursue any lifestyle that suits him. It’s reasonable to expect that his views will gain wide acceptance in our largely secularized North American culture. His books sell. Money is made. His readers learn that they needn’t deal with the issue of salvation as presented in the New Testament. They are free to do as they please. It’s fair to say that today’s critic has far more to gain with his anti-Christian historic reconstruction than those who originally composed the New Testament.

    It’s common to charge Christians with believing in the Bible, not based on evidence, but simply because they want to. This notion may be, and sometimes is, transferred to the Biblical writers themselves. These imaginative people, it is claimed, simply wanted Jesus to be to divine Saviour of the world and so wrote history according to this want. Think about this notion carefully. If such a scenario is possible, then what are we to think of the critic’s own historic reconstruction in relation to his own wants?

    If history may become corrupted so close in time to the events it describes based on the desires of the historian, then why is it unreasonable to suspect that today’s critic, separated by some 2000 years from first century Palestine, hasn’t reconstructed history based on his own wants? In short, if we are going to charge the New Testament authors with corrupting history because they wanted to believe in Jesus, why can’t we charge the critic with corrupting history because he does not want to believe in Jesus?

    Conclusion:

    Both critic and Christian must accept the previous seven assumptions as being true. Holding to the truthfulness of these assumptions while examining all of the historic data concerning early Christianity casts more doubt on the critic’s version of history than it does on the New Testament record. In future articles we will look at some of the issues raised here in greater detail. In the meantime, here are some excellent books:

    “The Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics”, by Norman Geisler

    “Unshakable Foundations”, by Norman Geisler and Peter Bocchino

    “The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict”, by Josh McDowel

    “The Case for Christ” and “The Case for Faith” by Lee Strobel

  • Joshua says:

    Also Jesus said in John 18:20: “I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.” There are no ” Lost Years of Jesus” Therefore the
    reinforcing doctrines to this new book ” Jesus a Story of Enlightenment”; Is absolutely false based upon
    Gnosticism, and New age thinking which stems from that. May you come to know the True God, your creator, ‘
    and only saviour who will save you from the wrath of a Holy, And Righteous God.

  • Unborn108 says:

    Words do not exactly portray reality.Later readers of words about earlier times and conditions might not get
    the correct picture.Readers of the Bible need to bear this in mind.
    Another possible distortion of reality was irrational religious fervour during the writing
    of the Bible.
    Jesus Christ could well be a Boddhisattva!

  • kamuz says:

    I have not had the opportunity to read the book I simply would be happy to have a conversation with Mr Deepak Chopra, a monkey can better understand one of his books titled “power, freedom and grace,” if I could establish contact with, would be grateful.

    kamuz den-forte

  • Mark Clements (Healmymind) says:

    • Rom. 12:12:
    “The world has yet to see what God can do with
    and for and through and in a man who is fully and wholly consecrated to Him.”
    So our brother has demonstrated, the way, that we too may follow.(That which I have done so may you also and much more).

  • bbriley says:

    I think the teaching and example of Jesus of Nazareth are most meaningful if we consider him as a person, just like us. A “child of God.” True, a remarkable person – but no different in substance than any of us is. I can be more inspired by the journey of a person like us than I can be by someone who is “magically” more Divine in origin. IMHO, it is true that he reached the end of the journey of awakening before the rest of us, but I also believe Paul’s admonition that we have “the mind that was in Christ be in you.” I.e., a universal spiritual blessing and presence. Any religion that is based upon fear will fail in the long run. On the other hand, a religion which is based upon inspiration and universal love and trust will succeed in helping us to awaken and be healed and become instruments of healing and awakening ourselves.

  • Joshua says:

    Just a comment on the argument between “divine being” and “enlightened teacher”. I obviously CANNOT speak for Mr. Chopra, but I can tell you what I believe he has shown me through his writing. I believe Jesus was both divine and enlightened teacher. I believe we are ALL divine because God lives in and through us, and experiences the world through us. Even that to me does not do it justice. I believe he lives AS us, and as EVERYTHING, and we are blessed with the ability as humans to be conscious of this “truth that will set us free”. We are becoming conscious of our own consciousness. This I believe is what Jesus was more successful at than any other human being has ever been. He realized who he really was. If God lived in and through and AS him, then God and him were one. That is divinity! And if you are reading this, it is inside you too. We are all divine, but most of us are not enlightened enough to see or understand it fully, including me. But for me, the tiniest glimpse has given me more peace than I have ever had. And the more I know, the more I know that I don’t know anything, and that’s OK. This life isn’t the end all be all, just one step in the journey. Mr. Chopra, thank you for sharing wisdom and love, and I sincerely hold an immense love for you in my heart, as I do also for everyone who may or may not read this comment. We are all one people, we are all one LIFE. Let’s wake up and see the Kingdom of Heaven, right here, inside each and every one of us. That’s what Jesus really wanted all along.

  • Christopher says:

    Well there are scripture about “Jesus’ ” lost years and background of his mother and father that show a bigger picture of who “Jesus” was.

    Now I will ask you, if you can believe that “satan” (as you would call him) provides disinformation, then I ask could he not have been taking part in the “hand picking” of the “scriptures” that ended up in the “modern bible” ?

    As you say the greatest accomplishment of Satan is to keep one from knowing the real “Jesus”…

  • marcus says:

    Never confuse religion with god….i don’t think he likes that…..I look at it this way….if you want to reach a destination….and you jump aboard a boat and sail away in hopes of getting there….wouldn’t it be self defeating to stay on that boat as you saw your destination go by…or worse yet….be so preoccupied with the boat itself that you never see your island of paradise is just ahead on the horizon…..whatever boat you use to make your way to god be sure not to loose sight of the destination and purpose of your journey….. be thankful when you find him…..and for his sake…don’t just sail by and stay on a boat that is never going to get you to the shore….use truth as your compass and when time is right….jump off the boat and swim to the beach…he’ll be there to greet you….

  • The history and story of Jesus is now made available in the most detailed and matter of fact manner in Part-IV of the Urantia Book. The the New testament Gospels and the other books outside the bible that existed gave the Jesus story (or history) from the human perspective. The Urantia Book gives it in modern English language in the celestial perspective understandable to intelligent but humble human beings.
    Read it online at http://www.truthbook.com or any other similar sites.

  • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi says:

    Mind is the function of autonomic nervous system. Electromagnetic force carries the functions of mind. Gravitational Force and Current of Chaitnya or Current of Conscious are the two names of the same essence.

    COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF SCIENCE OF RELIGION (THEOLOGY)
    A Scientific Understanding of Meditation and Yoga

    In Bhagavad-Gita Lord SriKrishna says to Arjun:
    “I taught this immortal Yoga to Vivasvan (sun-god), Vivasvan conveyed it to Manu(his son), and Manu imparted it to (his son) Iksvaku. Thus transmitted to succession from father to son, Arjun, this Yoga remained known to the Rajarisis (royal sages). It has however long since disappeared from this earth. The same ancient Yoga has this day been imparted to you by Me, because you are My devotee and friend, and also because this is a supreme secret”.

    Yoga (Application) which was based on the control of the body physically and implied that a perfect control over the body and the senses led to knowledge of the ultimate reality. A detailed anatomical knowledge of the human body was necessary to the advancement of yoga and therefore those practising yoga had to keep in touch with medical knowledge. (Romila Thapar, A History of India, volume one).

    I suggest : Mind and brain are two distinct things. Brain is anatomical entity whereas mind is functional entity. Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system (ANS). It is claimed that mind can be brought under conscious control through the practice of meditation. But how? ANS is largely under hypothalamic control which is situated very close to optic chiasma (sixth chakra or ajna chakra). Protracted practice of concentration to meditate at this region brings functions of ANS say mind under one’s conscious control.

    Although Danah Zohar has coined the term Spiritual Quotient for the first time but she did not establish any mathematical relationship for this. Without establishing mathematical relationship spiritual intelligence can not be termed as spiritual quotient.

    Deepak Chopra has given a formula of spiritual quotient in terms of Deed (D) and Ego (E). According to Deepak Chopra S.Q.=D/E. According to him if E is ‘zero’ the S.Q. will be infinite. This appears to be very fascinating but it is highly abstract which can not be measured experimentally accurately and precisely. However, this formula has immense value to understand S.Q.

    I have also discovered a mathematical relationship for S.Q about eight years back in 2001. I have used physiological parameters which can be measured accurately and precisely and can be tested and verified experimentally. According to this formula S.Q. can be expressed as the ratio of parasympathetic dominance (P.D.) to sympathetic dominance (S.D.). Parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS) are the two parts of the autonomic nervous system (ANS) which is largely under hypothalamic control. Hypothalamus is situated very close to the Sixth Chakra. During practice of meditation at Sixth Chakra these centres are galvanized which has very positive effect on practitioners spiritual, emotional, psychological and physical well being.

    According to this relationship spiritual quotient can be written as:

    S.Q. = P.D./S.D.

    If the value of S.Q. comes >1 (greater than one), it can be assumed that the person is moving towards self-realisation and if the value of S.Q. comes <1 (smaller than one) it can be predicted that the person is living under stress.

    This formula can be tested and verified experimentally.

    • Gyanama says:

      Formula-
      “Deepak Chopra has given a formula of spiritual quotient in terms of Deed (D) and Ego (E). According to Deepak Chopra S.Q.=D/E. According to him if E is ‘zero’ the S.Q. will be infinite. This appears to be very fascinating but it is highly abstract which can not be measured experimentally accurately and precisely. However, this formula has immense value to understand S.Q.”

      Sounds like the formula for Self Realization..Who can see understanding? Who can see Realization? yet everyone has experienced some form of understanding or realization. For instance when we not only know about an orange through sight of it alone, but have tasted it….Once you taste the orange you have now a memory of it that goes beyond it’s mere visual sight…

  • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi says:

    Jesus was not the only way to God. He is amongst one way to God.

    • Gyanama says:

      Jesus was very Scientific…That is how he healed, raised the dead and resurrected himself…He had the Spiritual Quantum formula of All Being….

      Love,
      Gyanama

  • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi says:

    Sixth Chakra is situated very close to hypothalamus. The hypothalamus is a portion of brain that contains a number of small nuclei with a variety of functions. One of the most important functions of the hypothalamus is to link nervous system to the endocrine system via the pituitary glands.

    Autonomic nervous system (ANS) is largely under hypothalamic control. ANS consists of parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS). PSNS is activated during meditative calm and during stress SNS is activated. When PSNS is activated, heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure decreased. Supply of blood in the digestive tract increased. When SNS is activated heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure increased. Supply of blood to the muscles and exterior organs increased and to the digestive tract decreased. In addition to these, there are many other parameters which can be compared. Parasympathetic Dominance (P.D.) is the state of PSNS activation and Sympathetic Dominance (S.D.) is the state of SNS activation. Instruments are available in medical science to measure these parameters.

    Now we can assign numerical value to each parameter. Then put the value in the formula for S.Q. and see the result. We can show the calculation as mentioned below:

    S.Q.= P.D./S.D. = Σ X / Σ Y
    Where X=x1+x2+x3+ …….
    And Y=y1+y2+y3+…….

    During PSNS activation (P.D.), we assign ‘1’ to each parameter (x1+x2+x3+…..) and ‘0’ to each parameter (y1+y2+y3+…..). During SNS activation (S.D.), we assign ‘1’ to each parameter (y1+y2+y3+…) and ‘0’ to each parameter (x1+x2+x3+….).

    By putting the numerical value, thus achieved, in the above formula for S.Q. we can calculate the Spiritual Quotient of an individual.

  • Gyanama says:

    Thinking is scientific…believing what you think is the added ingredient of your thinking. Even your unconscious thoughts and beliefs manifest..That which makes things manifest is impartial to what you think and believe…It just does what you tell and think into it….

    If you believe what you think you manifest that belief…There is nothing appearing in this human experience that was not thought of-

    Anyone can be a conscious scientific thinker- if you want to be….but it is a practice….otherwise you thoughts seem like the end up controlling you, when it should be the other way around…..

    Love,
    Gyanama

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