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CNN Larry King Live with Deepak- Mumbai attacks: Why it happened

November 28th, 2008

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Mumbai attacks: Why it happened 3:54
CNN Larry King Live Transcript:

Deepak Chopra on why Mumbai attacks happened and preventing future violence. Unknown group claims responsibility for attack

(CNN) — The Indian city of Mumbai exploded into chaos early Thursday morning as gunmen launched a series of attacks across the country’s commercial capital, killing scores of people and taking hostages in two luxury hotels frequented by Westerners.
Deepak Chopra says extremists could be reacting to Barack Obama’s gestures toward Muslims.

CNN’s Larry King spoke with author Deepak Chopra about the situation.

Larry King: Let’s go to Dr. Deepak Chopra, the physician, philosopher. His new book is “Jesus: A Story of Enlightenment.”

Where were you born in India, Deepak?

Deepak Chopra: I was born in Delhi, but I have been in these hotels many, many times. I have stayed there, so I know the scene; I know the restaurants. I have been trying to get in touch with my friends and relatives, some of whom I have spoken to, some of whom I can’t speak to. The lines are jammed. We’re texting each other.

A friend of mine from Egypt was in the restaurant at the Taj hotel when the firing started, and somehow she managed to avoid the fray, hid in a basement and is now holed up in a room which is right next to the Taj hotel and is waiting to be told what to do.

The situation is complex, Larry, because it could inflame to proportions that we cannot even imagine. It has to be contained. We now recognize that this is a global problem, with only a global effort can solve this.

And you know, one of the things that I think is happening is that these militant terrorist groups are actually terrified that [President-elect Barack] Obama’s gestures to the rest of the Muslim world may actually overturn the tables on them by alienating them from the rest of the Muslim world, so they’re reacting to this.

You know, this is Obama’s opportunity to actually harness the help of the Muslims.

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You know, there’s 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. That’s 25 percent of the population of the world. It’s the fastest-growing religion in the world. We cannot, if we do not appease and actually recruit the help of this Muslim world, we’re going to have a problem on our hands.

And we cannot go after the wrong people, as we did after 9/11, because then the whole collateral damage that occurs actually aggravates the situation.

In India, this is particularly inflammatory, because there’s a rise of Hindu fundamentalism. We saw what that did in Gujarat, where, you know, Muslims were scorched and they were killed, and there was almost a genocide of the Muslims.

India has 150 million Muslims. That’s more Muslims in India than in Pakistan. So this is an opportunity right now for India and Pakistan to recognize this is their common problem. It’s not a Muslim problem right now; it’s a global problem.

King: Do you think that this is just the beginning, that there’s a potential impact, or more?

Chopra: There is a potential impact of a lot more carnage. But it can be contained. And right now, one of the questions, you know, after I heard Barbara Starr talking about how coordinated this is, that there are militant groups that cross international boundaries, is who is financing this? Where is the money coming from? We have to ask very serious, honest questions. What role do we have in this? Are our petrodollars funding both sides of this war on terrorism? Why are we not asking the Saudis where that money is going that we give them? Is it going through this supply chain to Pakistan?

It’s not enough for Pakistan to condemn it. Pakistan should cooperate with India in uprooting this. They should be part of the surgery that is going to happen.

It’s not enough for Indians to blame Pakistanis. Indians should actually ask the Pakistanis to help them.

And it’s not enough for us to worry about Westerners being killed and Americans being killed. Every life is precious over there. We have got to get rid of this idea that this is an American problem or a Western problem. It’s a global problem, and we need a global solution, and we need the help of all the Muslims, 25 percent of the world’s population, to help us uproot this problem.

King: What does India immediately do?

Chopra: India at this moment has to contain any reactive violence from the fundamentalist Hindus, which is very likely and possible. So India has to condemn that by not blaming local Muslims. They have to identify the exact groups.

And the world has to be very careful that they don’t go after the wrong people. Because if you go after the wrong people, you convert moderates into extremists. It happens every time, and retribution against innocent people just because they have the same religion actually aggravates and perpetuates the problem.

King: Are you pessimistic?

Chopra: I think Mr. Obama has a real opportunity here, but a challenging opportunity, a creative opportunity.

Get rid of the phrase “war on terrorism.” Ask for a creative solution in which we all participate.

King: Is it because the war on terrorism really can never be won because the terrorists (inaudible)?

Chopra: Because it’s an oxymoron. It’s an oxymoron, Larry, a war on war, a war on terrorism.

You know, terrorists call mechanized death from 35,000 feet above sea level with a press of a button also terror. We don’t call it that, because our soldiers are wearing uniforms. They don’t see what is happening, and innocent people are being killed. So, you know, terror is a term that you apply to the other.

King: Thanks, Deepak Chopra, as always, extraordinarily enlightening.

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15 COMMENTS
  • marlina says:

    Finally somebody is making sense of a world problem. There must be better ways to solve problems than with wars, where in the long run nobody wins. There will always be extrememist groups that feel justified in their terrorist behavior for past sins done to them and their country.
    I think Deepak’s right that we need to befriend the muslim people as not all of them are extremist.
    I believe that President Elect Obama has the mentality that can think creatively to find new ways to unify the world and help solve these world problems.

  • teresa says:

    What is terrible about this attack and many others before, including 9/11, is that civilians: men, women,
    and children are being killed arbitrarily. There are no ethics and no rules of war anymore. Beyond the U.S.
    and India, Egypt, Russia, Spain, England, and many other countries besides the usual middle-eastern spots,
    civilians, innocent people, have been targeted in cowardly acts of violence. People are killed and wounded
    in day-to-day scenarios: during breakfast at a hotel, during a tour to a museum, during dinner after a working
    day, at a concert hall, or a school event; during a wedding reception, or a funeral service. There is no sense
    of privacy or personal space anymore. For most, it is only when violence and terror becomes personal that
    they are willing to hear and question. At the expense, of course, of hatred and retribution.

  • Sanjay Jaiman says:

    How is he enlightening and who is he anyway? Sometimes he states the obvious and sometimes he is completely out of touch. He should just shutup and show some grief and not show any of his psuedo-intellectual capacity to have great insight into all this. One word of adivce to Chopra, if he is so outraged by the uS, stop eating and drinking and because the food/water was probably delivered on a vehicle running on the same petrol purchased by the “petro-dollars” that he is insinuating are funding this terror.

  • Ann in Oregon says:

    I suggest that you to to “The Huffington Post” where there are good 2 articles on this subject, one by
    Depak Chopra and the other by his son. Then, if you dare, come back to this forum and continue
    saying that Depak should “shut up”. No wonder we are in such a mess with comments like that.

    It’s time for a radical paradigm shift in this crazy world. One that understands that we are all
    in this “boat” together and that there is always a context for religious extremism–whether it is being
    played out in the streets of the Muslim world or in the American presidential campaigns of McCain/Palin.
    Call a spade a spade. Extreme religious fundamentalism is the root of all ignorance, evil and terrorism
    and the context for it is the extreme poverty and ethnocentric political policies that spawn terroristic
    impulses all over the world.

  • ashok says:

    Deepakji,

    I am very disappointed to hear your comments on Mumbai attack at CNN. I have highest regads for you. You have accused Hindus of genocide of muslims ignoring the finding of a retired supreme court justice. A probe panel headed by Justice Nanavathi has said the Sabarmati Express coach burning was a pre-planned conspiracy. It also gave a clean chit to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi and the state police in the subsequent post-Godhra riots that claimed over 1169 lives majoruty of them were Muslims (750-800?). If you characterize killing of 700-800 persons of a sect as genocie then killing of 4000 plus Sikhs was a Holocast. I do not support killing of a single person but I am very disappointed that you have questioned the honesty and credibility of an eminent justice at the international level. You did not utter a single word about the recent past terrorist activities in India in which thousnads of innocents have died. I would advisre that you confine your views to the area of youe expertise. Thanks

  • Naomi Gray says:

    I find it odd that one of the “great spiritual leaders of our time” is making a point of blaming everyone
    EXCEPT those responsible for the last several years of terrorist activities. Of course it’s easier to point
    the finger at someone else rather than taking any responsibility yourself. I’m just really sick of hearing that
    we apparently should have done nothing in answer to the 9/11 attacks. We should have just let it go that
    Muslim extremists (this is what they ALWAYS identify themselves as) decided to come into our country and kill countless innocents. What did they expect us to do??? And you know what? If Deepak Chopra considers us the root of all evil then maybe he should sell his
    mansion in California and go somewhere else. After all, why would you want to live in a country that –
    from what he says- is the root of all evil in the world today? Seems pretty hypocritical to me, considering he
    seems to spend as much time as possible in places like California and Hawaii. Thank you, Mr. Chopra, for proving yourself to be just another money hungry charlatan. I guess this will save me the effort of ever trying to attend one of your
    ridiculously overpriced conferences or saving to buy your latest scam. I can’t support someone with such
    delusional tunnel vision. And I’m all for believing that the world changes with how you choose to see it –
    however, that doesn’t mean you can deny the existence of rational facts just because they don’t fit with
    how you want things to be. Wake up.

  • Kartheek says:

    This is one of the sanest comments I have heard in recent ddays. Myself being a Indian, Hindu and having lived in Mumbai am outraged by this dastardly act of terrorists and I definitely want the Indian Government and International community to go after the perpetrators. However, we should keep in mind that this is only a short term solution and we must put our efforts at going after the root causes of terrorism. As Mr. Chopra rightly points out, Muslims constitute a quarter of the worlds population and is the fastest growing section. We can’t aim to achieve long term peace by alienating this community and we should show a strong resolve to address the root causes. US being a world leader should definitely take an initiative in that direction and this would be a challenging opportunity forthe incoming Obama administration. In this context, I would also like to point out that there was no strong condemnation expressed from the Arab/Muslim world to this mascarre and the moderates in this part of the world should come forward to express their dissent more publicly.

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  • meagain says:

    I’m with Sanjay….. Deepak speaks out of both sides of his mouth.
    Let’s be perfectly honest with ourselves here folks. We face a real
    threat….. I know this is “fear mongering”, but think back to the morning
    of 9/11, then consider the aftermath. These people will not be appeased
    by “reaching out” or by attempting to “understand them”…..
    These people are evil personified and nothing but swinging a
    “bigger stick” is the solution.
    Get some gonads Americans! And whatever you do, don’t listen to this
    Eastern,New Age horsecrap that Deepak and the rest of these foreigners
    are selling. Let’s remember what kind of backward, third world culture
    they come from…. Ideas matter, there is a reason America has prospered
    and India lives in the dark ages. It’s because of our differing world views.
    When you have a belief system where mothers will gouge out the eyes of
    their children to make them better beggers (Karma/Reincarnation), you
    know you you have a sick worldview.
    Welcome to Deepakism!

  • anika says:

    Mr King

    Don’t believe what chopra telling to the world.
    He thinks that he is the smurtest one in the
    world.

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